When responses are too long for Facebook

Anyone that has known me for a period of time knows that I enjoy a good debate. Not an argument…when you start getting personal because I disagree with you then we have a problem. I mean a discussion, a discourse. The ability to sit down face to face with someone who has a sincere and genuine differing opinion from mine and discussing the issues and not just the emotions of a situation or a problem. I recently reconnected with some of my old friends over the years on Facebook, including a few that are (to say the least) more of a “liberal” bent than me. However, sometimes we get into conversations with each other and others that end up being too lengthy for Facebook posts. Thank goodness for blogs!

This is a reply to some responses given by my fraternity brother J.D. “Dusty” Roades (no relation to my pal, Virgil Runnells, of wrestling fame) during one of those conversations:

“Indeed. But can you explain, if conservatives want “less government and less power, and less control over the lives of American citizens” why they back warrantless wiretaps, allowing the FBI to order the library to give you a list of what you’ve been reading (and threatening librarians with jail if they tell you), denial of the right to habeas corpus, and imprisonment without trial or even charge because the President, without any review, decides someone is a threat?”

I believe that I can. In most of the cases that Dusty (who’s an attorney, bless his heart…) alludes to here the issues that were being dealt with were issues of national security stemming from the fact that even before the WMD debacle that embroiled us in Iraq, our nation has long been the target of hostile, foreign forces. Most of those forces have been aligned with groups of radical, militant Muslims who have in many cases instigated or committed armed attacks on citizens of the United States in other countries

Can you explain why, if conservatives want “less government and less power, and less control over the lives of American citizens” why they try to enact laws controlling what women can do with their own bodes, telling people who they can and cannot marry, and allowing those state run schools you say are failing to force students to engage in state-mandated prayer?

(Fortunately, the courts have reined a lot of these things in, while conservatives scream about judicial activism) “

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So I’m Wrong No Matter What??

These are some thoughts to a post that was recently made on Facebook as part of the comments to some thoughts by my old college fraternity brother, J.D. “Dusty” Rhoades (who by the way is a kick-ass mystery writer even though we’re not often on the same wave-length politically. His website is http://www.jdrhoades.com and his blog is http://www.jdrhoades.blogspot.com. I recommend them!)

Dusty’s original comments centered on the recent poll by CBS News (which has a history of being REALLY fair to conservative issues!) that most “Tea Party members” saying that their taxes were “fair”. Dusty mused “Anyone care to hazard a guess, then, what they’re REALLY pissed off about? Could it be, maybe, that what the partiers are really up in arms about is that the wrong guy (or the wrong color guy) won?”

Could it be, maybe….SATAN??? Just kidding but although there are some ignorant asses in every group that would probably cite that to others with a nudge and a wink I find it hard to believe that people that would have probably run to the polls to vote for Condi Rice or Colin Powell are more concerned about President Obama’s skin tone than his politics. Are they mad that the “wrong” political viewpoint won? Ah…there’s the rub!

But, let’s look what one commentor wrote: “It makes me crazy when people say their taxes are too high, as they drive their late model cars on government maintained roads and send their kids to public schools. I’d much prefer paying 10 or 20% more in taxes for National Health Care, (which my English in-laws say they’d never give up) then to lose everything because we can’t pay medical bills…

And what does it mean to love freedom? Is loving freedom being angry all the time and looking to pick fights with yellow-bellied liberals like me? Doesn’t freedom mean you’re free to be a Muslim and a Socialist? Or an atheist for that matter?”

No, freedom is the ability to argue (not “pick fights”) with “yellow-bellied liberals” when the need arises. I also enjoy debating with anyone else that holds different views from me. Were I not convinced of the validity of my views then there would be no need for me to have them and I’d just smile and nod a lot.

So, if you acutally put money into the economy (by having a “late model car”, which I don’t) then you have no reason to be concerned about taxes? And anyone that thinks there’s a lot of waste in state and federal spending of tax funds and speaks out against it is a narrow-minded bigot and they are only against the President because he’s not a 100% “white” person? And if you disagree about how ineffectually and wastefully some taxes are spent you shouldn’t utilize any resouces/facility funded by taxes? Concepts like that are at the very center of why some of these folks are mad. To paraphrase Dusty, “It’s OK if you’re a Democrat/Liberal” seems to be what I hear from the other side of the aisle.

Roads have been paid for by taxes since the first cobblestone was laid centuries ago so I don’ t think that concept is what makes some people mad. Schools have been paid for by taxes since the first days of scholasticism. I am required to pay taxes to support schools. If I’m a tax-payer, why should I pay taxes to support schools and spend money I do not have to send my kids to private school? My wife and I chose not to home-school because we didn’t want our children to grow up in isolation. However, it does make me mad to see schools slighted in funds or required to use funds on less than effective un-funded federal an state mandates that in the end hurt the brightest and most inovative students and the lowest most needy students the worst.

“Well I would pay more money for a health care system.” Great. You are entitled to that opinion but that opinion is also values statement. Not everyone wants to pay part of everything for everyone else. If I want to give away more than 10% of my income to a charity or a church then I’m backing up my values with my money and my actions. If you TAKE 10% from me and tell me “We’ll do what we want to with this for who we decide, thank you very much!” then some people will not hold that in very high regard.

Does freedom mean you can be a Muslim? Sure. It’s obvious why many people today seem to throw that out (since everyone knows that Conservatives, evangelical Christians and other people that didn’t vote for Obama see every Muslim as being a wide-eyed, explosive-laden radical hell-bent destruction). The truth is there have been Muslims in the United States for many years along with many, many other religious groups. Show me a major city and we can identify any number of mosques along with synagogs, temples, halls and other places of worship. The fact that there have been more shootings and violence in Christian churches in recent years than in these other places of worship seem to indicate that the Freedom of Religion in the United States is still alive (although some people’s desire to see “Freedom FROM Religion” does continue to pose problems in the courts.)

Does freedom mean being a radical Muslim that supports violence and terror? No. It also doesn’t mean you can be a radical Skin-head, Aryan, Militia, etc. of the “home-grown” terror variety (Oklahoma City) either. You have the freedom to be a Socialist (although the debate on whether the tenants of socialism are compatible with freedom can be made).

In many cases, anger comes from the belief that a person’s views and opinions are not respected or counted as important to others. Have Conservatives, when in power, held this same contempt? In many cases, yes. But as the old but valid saying goes, “Two wrongs do not make a right”.

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Well, here goes nothing…

I suppose that I got so tired of writing about different things that interest me or to make others think or laugh (or laugh while thinking) that I finally decided to start my own blog.  I like to think of it as very similar to screaming out of a rolled-down vehicle window while going down the road at 65 MPH. Chances are pretty good that no body will hear you and will just think you’re crazy.

Anyway, here’s what anyone that cares can expect to find in my posts:

1) An attempt at humor;

2) Comments on sports, professional wrestling and other entertainment;

3) Lots of bad spelling;

4) Comments on political topics and social issues;

5) Comments on Christian issues.

So, if anyone’s interested, I invite folks to stay tuned. If not then I’ll just repost it to Facebook!

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